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>> so this isn't about the money? this is about you think the kids are being shortchanged by resources? >> it is not about the money. if you have been in a classroom with 41 kids when it's 95 degrees, you know that cps doesn't put kids first. >> phillip cantor, good to have you with us. we'll follow the story. people are watching this strike. it's very interesting the issues. it's not about the money, it's about the kids. that's "the ed show." "theshow" starts now. thank you for staying with us for the next hour. the romney/ryan ticket just came out for legalizing pot. i think. at least they did it for a second before they took it back. the republican campaign had not previously been in favor of legalizing pot. paul ryan had not only never voted for legalizing marijuana, he had never voted for legalizing medical marijuana. but now paul ryan has gone to
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colorado and said, you know what, it's up to the states to decide. if colorado wants to legalize pot, that is colorado's choice. woo hoo! >> that's up to coloradans to decide. >> so if marijuana is illegal -- >> my personal position on these issues have been let the states decide what they want to do with these things. this is not a high priority of ours as to whether or not we go down this issue. but i have always believed states should make the right to decide. >> i realize they are behind in the polls. it is kind of a surprising development that the republican party is running their presidential campaign on a platform that states should be allowed to legalize pot. that appears to have been the republicans position as of friday at roughly 5:30 p.m. local time in colorado. but by noon the following day on saturday, they had changed their
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mind. quote, a ryan spokesman emphasized that mr. ryan agrees with mitt romney that marijuana should never be legalized. so the republicans were for legalizing pot for about 18 hours. but they are no longer for that anymore. that particular issue and that issue in the state of colorado has flum exed the romney campaign in the past. this was back in may. >> medical marijuana is legal in colorado. one of our viewers asked, should marijuana be legalized for medical use? >> aren't there issues of significance you'd like to talk about? >> this is an significant issue in colorado. medical marijuana. >> i think marijuana should not be legal in this country. i believe it's a gateway drug to other drug violations. >> we're going to do marriage. those are state issues. aren't they? really? >> mr. romney getting testy with
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the reporter in colorado for even asking him about the issue. which his running mate skew screwed up. he got annoyed with the same reporter for asking about guy marriage as well and that same reporter in colorado, she also created more headaches for the romney campaign nationally as well as in colorado this year when she reported on the air last month that the romney campaign had insisted on certain ground rules as a precondition for her being allowed to interview mr. romney. listen. >> this all started yesterday morning. we got a call from a romney staffer asking if i wanted to do a one-on-one interview with romney. when i agreed, i was told that there was a condition. i not ask about abortion. i later clarified what this meant. i planned to ask about the candidate that said the woman's
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body shut down, but aiken was part of this stipgs. >> it's not uncommon to try to shape the interviews their candidate is subjected to. but you're supposed to do it off the record. you're supposed to say those it negotiations are off the record so you're not giving the reporter about what your candidate is afraid to be asked about. then what the candidate is afraid of becomes a bigger story than what did eventually make it into your carefully-stage managed interview. colorado has just been tough for the romney campaign this year. it's like they are jinxed. you might remember this happening the night of the colorado republican caucuses in february. watch. >> i can tell you this room, we talked about this a few moments ago, this room was not even half full. it's started to fill in a little bit, but this room is still not completely full. keep in mind, we're in the city of denver. this is a large area outside of
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the city limits you have a lot of conservative republicans. and mitt romney is not filling this room tonight. >> not only was mr. romney unable to fill a room in colorado, the night of 9 the republican caucus, he end eed up losing the state of colorado in a very unexpected result. he had won colorado by more than 40 points the last time in 2008. but he lost colorado this year to rick santorum, which made for a lousy romney victory party in colorado that night. here's how it looks for romney in colorado right now. the average of polls shows president obama with about a 3-point lead over mr. romney. all of that polling was done well before the democratic convention. to the extent that that convention looks to have helped president obama's campaign, that 3.4% gap might get bigger. broadly speaking, it does look like there is at least a preliminary convention bounce helping the president in some key swing states. in ohio he's increased his lead
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over mitt romney from three points to five points. in north carolina which hosted the convention, mr. obama had been behind in the polls. he's not got a 1-point lead. in terms of national polling, after the republicans did their convention, mr. obama and romney were tied in cnn's poll of likely voters. but today the new cnn poll came out and shows obama with a 6-point lead. the gallup poll shows the same thing. while romney experienced no bounce, mr. obama has opened up a 5-point lead. the president's job approval rating also spiked to its highest level since right after the killing of osama bin laden. knew mer kl speaking, president obama seemed to have the more successful convention this year. mr. romney did not do a post convention campaign tour as candidates almost always do. instead he took some time off
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and went boat iing in new hampshire. he was pretty much off the campaign trail. it indicated he was debate prepping or maybe retooling his campaign message. mr. romney did resurface this weekend to unveil a new stump speech in which he mentioned the evils of an imaginary plan republicans have made up that president obama is somehow secretly planning to take in god we trust off our coins. he's not planning on doing that. they also had romney endorse the far right, birther congressman king. and they had romney do a photo op with pat robertson at an appearance in virginia. when buzz feed pressed the romney campaign about this sudden culture can war shift in the campaign, a spokesman insisted, quote, the subject has been the economy, it is the economy, and it will be the
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economy. so then why do you have him appearing with pat robertson? there's the issue right now of the romney campaign's focus. what issues they are trying to get people to decide the election on. but there's also the issue of the campaign's message. this very simple issue of whether or not the candidates know what to say when they are asked basic questions about what they are running on. i mean they almost accidentally started running on legalizing pot this weekend. for about 18 hours, they were running on that. conceivably, that might work, by don't think that's what they meant to do. on sunday romney went on "meet the press" and said that republicans made a big mistake when they voted in congress for the sequester. the big debt deal that entails a lot of defense cuts. mr. romney said republicans who vetoed for that made, in his words, quote, a big mistake. one of the republicans who voted for that was his running mate, paul ryan, who then later had to
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go on a network show and deny he cast the vote for those defense cuts, which he definitely did vote for. >> you voted for the budget control act. in fact, i went and looked. you put out a statement the time it was passed. you called it a victory and called it a positive step forward. so you voted for defense cuts and now you're criticizing the president for the same defense cuts that you voted for. >> i have to correct you on this. i voted for a mechanism that says a sequester will occur if we don't cut trillions in defense spending. >> you voted for it. you voted for it. >> i voted for the budget control act. you're mistaken. >> actually, nora o'donnell factually was not mistaken. paul ryan voted for a bill that his running mate mitt romney is now calling a big mistake. that's what they were talking
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about and that he voted for. they undermined the campaign message that obama care is a terrible, horrible thing for america and that he, mitt romney as president, will get rid of all of obama care. all yearlong he's been pledging complete repeal of obama care. that's been his language. complete repeal. until this weekend. >> i'm not getting rid of all of health care reform. there are a number of things i like in health care reform that i'm going to put in place. one is to make sure those with preexisting conditions can get coverage. >> romney is going to keep the part with preexisting conditions. that's a whole new policy. that's awesome. that's a whole new plan for him that they waited until after the conventions to unveil? it's weird timing. but actually it turns out they took it back. they didn't mean that. the romney campaign later that day said that there's actually
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no change in mr. romney's long-held position on health reform. he was not proposing to require insurance plans to offer those particular features. an entire week off to listen to the democrats arguments about you. you had a whole week and what you came up with is i kind of like obama care and paul ryan has a horrible voting record? but when we're pressed, we're going to -- also legalize pot for 18 hours and then quickly pivot back to ban pot everywh e everywhere. either this is such high level campaign genius that we don't understand what they are doing here, or they don't have any idea of what they are doing here. joining us to help decide which is dan rather, the anchor of "dan rather reports." thank you for being here. >> always a joy to be with you. >> is it possible there's some secret genius at work here, that you're telling broad audiences or even specific state audiences
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like colorado voters on the issue of pot, you're telling them something they might want to hear and hoping they don't hear the correction? is this intentional? >> anything is possible, but i don't think so. i think the romney campaign is in a bad stretch. they are having a terrible week post the democratic convention. frankly, i thought the republicans and candidate romney and his running mate came out of the conventions okay. the the democrats had more energy. bill clinton who could talk the legs off a chair did a masterful performance. i don't think they are in all that bad shape. but you pointed out governor romney did not go out on the campaign trail. he disappeared after the convention. he appeared in an interview with david gregory. when the obama care thing came up, i'll keep some obama care
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and he says, i didn't mean it. here's his basic problem. we talked about it before. does this man know what it is he believes? is he willing to stick to it and fight for it? whatever the truth of it is, the perception has been there from the beginning. this guy may not know really what he wants to do. these last few days have fuelled that. if he wins, he has to win on jobs and the economy. he can't seem to keep the focus there. and you can't run a campaign with more twists than a pretzel factory and expect people not to catch up. not in the present day. i think future historians and politicians and people who cover politics will be looking at this campaign and studying it for a long time to come because the center of gravity has changed with facebook, twitter and the immense amount of coverage there is of a campaign.
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there's a time not long ago, you can say one thing to one group of people and another thing to another group of people and it wouldn't catch up. those days are gone. now either the romney campaign doesn't understand that, or they are having a bad few days. i have said to you before that i think romney has a good chance to win. i still think he can win, but the odds are longer on him today than they were even ten days or two weeks ago. certainly, the obama camp is going to jump on these poll numbers that show a bump from the democratic convention and post convention. they are going to jump on those. however, we know historically from campaigns in the past that the bump you get out of a convention at this time in the campaign frequently evaporate. by the time we get through the first debate on october 3rd, the campaigns may seem as far away. we just have to see. i do come back to this.
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the reason bill clinton is so masterful is he didn't talk at people. he talked to people. and he had a conversation with the audience, with the american people. and he had a respect for the audience. even some respect for the other party. this was powerful stuff. now neither frankly has seem to have gotten that message fully. but it's time, let's cut the bull feathers here. let's cut the business of saying one thing to one group and really talk to people and not at them and talk seriously. and the press has a big role to play in this. the press needs to hold candidates accountable. when they flip-flop, not just the appearance, but when they flip-flop, that needs to be drichb ho driven home. there's a tendency in the press, on the one hand this isn't true,
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but the other side says this and try to give a moral equivalency. that's not the way to cover a campaign. and i hope the press can do better. >> i think the extent the press has gotten better about that. and i thought you saw sharp elbows at paul ryan for some of the thing its he misstated in his acceptance speech. it's because we have been pushed by people who are existing as their own fact checkers and sharing their information and able to do the research themselves. >> let me ask you, rachel. you get paid to ask the questions. are you as surprised as i am that paul ryan has thus far proved to be as unstead sdi a candidate? i expected paul ryan to be mr. cool, nothing shakes him, have an answer for everything. you saw in the interviews, he's not very well prepared or he clutches during the interview and doesn't have very good answers. i'm surprised he hasn't been more reliable as a running mate. >> he was a high performer running in his 700,000
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population congressional district. that was actually a challenge. it was not a republican-leaning district. he's been a high performer among the conservative media that sort of loves guys like him in congress and he's never been tested anywhere beyond that. he's never run an election where he has to face more than 700,000 people. you can see it in his eyes when he blinks on his own voting record and lying about his marathon time. you know you can't get away with lying about it. dan rather, i could talk to you all night. thank you for being here. dan is the anchor of "dan rather reports" on access tv. his latest episode will be at 8:00 eastern tomorrow night. the romney campaign's plan a is experiencing some unexpected turbulence. that's making republicans nervous and democrats slightly less. plan b is proceeding forthwith.
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he's even blurted out the notion that russia is our number one geopolitical foe. sarah palin said she could see russia from alaska. mitt romney talks like he's only seen russia by watching "rocky iv." >> former presidential nominee john kerry was not considered a head liner speech going into the convention last week, but the personality that he unveiled there and how aggressive he was against mitt romney really turned him into a top tier headliner. while it was fun to watch the other headliners wander off script and ad lib in their speeches, president obama usually sticks very closely to his prepared remarks. interestingly though, the night of the obama speech, one of the few times president obama ad
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libbed off his script at all was when he went after mitt romney on that same russia thing that john kerry had just killed him on. >> you don't call russia our number one enemy, not al qaeda, russia, unless you're still stuck in a cold war mind war. >> mitt romney did, in fact, call russia our number one geopolitical foe. he said that in march of this year. in the 2000s. >> this is to russia. this is without question our number one geopolitical foe. they fight every cause for the world's worst actors. >> whether or not the republicans knew in advance they were going to get slammed on that so hard at the democratic convention, they did go after them repeatedly including by the president himself and by john kerry with a reference to a rocky movie. that was on thursday night.
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what have they come up since then to explain what he was talking about? what did they come up with? >> mitt romney was criticized for saying russia is without question our number one geopolitical foe. do you agree with mitt romney? >> i think what he was saying among the other powers, china and russia, that russia stands a great threat. >> this is their answer. when mitt romney said number one geopolitical foe, he didn't mee number one, he meant this is worse than china. just came out number one. it wasn't number one out of all of the oh countries. just those two countries. this struggle over the russia question comes on top of another struggle. out of their whole convention, there seemed to be a few narratives that stuck.
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why was clint eastwood yelling at an empty chair? nobody from the romney campaign has fired for letting that happen. second narrative, there were a bunch of factually untrue things in the paul ryan vice president l nomination speech and that was reenforced when he had to admit he said an untrue thing about how fast he once ran a marathon. the third narrative that has stuck is neither ryan or romney mentioned the fact that we have 80,000 troops at war right now when they gave their acceptance speeches. that did not sit well, even with romney allies. leave aside the question of the political wisdom of romney's silence and the opportunities it opens up for president obama next week, what about the civic propriety of a presidential nominee failing even to mention in his acceptance speech a war we're fighting and our young men and women who are fighting it?
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the romney campaign has still not come up with a reasonable explanation for why they did not seem fit to mention the war. this was mr. romney's answer when asked about it on fox news on friday. >> do you regret opening up this line of attack, now a recurring attack, by leaving out that issue in the speech? >> i only regret you repeating it day in and day out. when you give a speech, you talk about the things that are important. >> the case of this speech, the things he did consider important enough to talk about including the mexican revolution, gas price, his ipod play list, but not the war. mr. romney went on to say in that friday interview he did talk in his convention speech in general terms about the military and defense spending, which is true, but it doesn't change the
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fact he did not talk about the war in afghanistan or the thousands of troops still fight ing it. on sunday romney was given a second chance at that. a second chance to clear the air to offer some sort of reasonable-sounding explanation or apology. here's what happened instead. >> they took you to task in your convention speech for not mentioning the war in afghanistan one time. was that a mistake with so much sacrifice in two wars over the period of this last decade? >> i find it interesting that people are curious about mentioning words in a speech as opposed to policy. so i went to the american legion the day before. >> you weren't speaking to tens of millions of people there. >> everything i say is picked up by you and others and that's the way it ought to be. so i went to the legion and spoke with veterans there and described my policy as it relates to afghanistan and other foreign policy and our military. >> that's not true. mr. romney did speak at the
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american legion just before his convention speech. he did at the american legion mention the the existence of the war, but he did not describe his policy as it relates to afghanistan. which is what he said he did. he did not do that. that was all he said at the american legion. >> we're still at war in afghanistan. we still have uniform men and women in conflict risking their lives just as you once did. >> that's not a statement of policy about afghanistan. we have troops there. that's a statement of fact. that's a caption to a picture. that's not a statement of policy. that's not saying what you'd do as commander in chief of those troops in that war if you became the president of the united states. it is one thing to screw up your nominating convention. like this. it's another thing to deny you screwed it up and said you did something that you did not do. when you say you went to the american legion and gave a speech about policy ideas, you did not do that.
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this has been a pretty great campaign season but there will never be a season like 2010.
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if we don't get what we want, we'll start shooting. christina o'donnell, not a witch. but remember joe miller versus lisa mer cow ski? i have found myself thinking of what we learned on our show's trip up to alaska that fall to cover joe miller and his supporters. >> good luck, you guys. >> we disagree with that. >> she voted to confirm earthquake hoeric holder. >> why are you against that? what's he done against guns? >> what hasn't he done against guns? let's look at what his voting record beforehand. >> all i'm asking is look at what his record is with obama. what's he done on guns that you're upset about? >> i honestly, i don't know enough about him to answer that
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truthly. >> can i ask why you're upset about eric holder? >> he's antigun. i don't have all the facts. >> that was the amazing state of mind drive iing the tea party republican surge in the 2010 election. it's amazing. but it turns out that sort of thing is not just alaska. and it wasn't just 2010. it's this year too. and the data that proves it will make you laugh out loud. this coming up at the end of the show tonight. stay with us. we're sitting on a bunch of shale gas.
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wisconsin, michigan or pennsylvania. but update. wisconsin, you are now getting added back to the list. in addition to the eight states i named, the romney campaign says it will also carpet bomb wisconsin, home of paul ryan. now we have a playing field of nine states with wisconsin included. nine states we define as the pl playing field. presidential races are always fought this way in a few states. right now this year it appears to be nine states. but in most of these nine states officials have acted to try to make voting harder. passing laws that require you e show documentation you never had to show to vote before. they have also tried to purge voter rules and tried to cut early voting and make it harder to register. in five of the nine states where the election will be decided, in
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a majority the top elections official is a republican. in those states all those stories we have been covering about republicans changing the rules about who can vote and when, all those stories are not just important in those states, they are clearly of national importance. and they ought to get national attention. for example, ohio. you may remember that republican secretary of state john houston supported a plan for extended voting hours in counties that lean republican, even as he supported culting those hours in counties that lean democratic. and then secretary of state cut on nights and weekends for everyone in the state of ohio. when two democrats tried to offer weekend voting, he fired them. we hosted them as guests on this show. today those two democratic officialed sued him for wrongful termination. they said he fired us and dared other board members to try to stand up for the voters in their
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community. mr. husted is failing a court decision to make those days available in ohio. since they were available without incident in 2008 and without incident in 2010, they were available without incident in this year's republican primary, but he wants to get rid of them now that barack obama will be on the ballot. his appeal of that decision means that voters are 57 days out from the election with no clear idea of when exactly they will be allowed to vote. he's getting help from an outside lawyer from washington, d.c. a liberal ohio blog reported out last week that you can find this same lawyer they have flown in, you can find him arguing for a county in alabama and for the state of florida. both in cases where key provisi provisions of the voting rights act, they say, should be declared unconstitutional. you want to curtail voting rights in a way that might raise
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eyebrows? we have just the lawyer for you. we'll fly him in. making voting harder has become kind of an industry if you know where to look. for republicans it's become a real political priority. in iowa republican secretary of state matt shultz has declared emergency rules in iowa to make voting harder. he says he simply must do this before november. it's an emergency. if the court allows the rules to stand, secretary of state matt shultz will begin a purge of iowa voter rules. the new emergency rules would allow anyone to allege that someone else was committing voter fraud. and you can make that allegation anonymously. a case in iowa has gone unnoticed so far because we are not used to thinking of iowa as a hard-fought swing state. but watch iowa and these new emergency rules in iowa. also swing state florida where we got news today that the
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november ballot itself is going to be a monster. really that's what they are calling it. one supervisor saying, quote, they have really created a monster. another clerk says voters may need smelling salts once they see the size of the ballot to get through. it contains 11 proposed changes to the constitution and several are printed in full. that means hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of words for each of these constitutional proposed changes. when you add in the local races, the ballot in miami-dade runs to five pages. the florida ballot will be so long in some cities it will cost you $1.50 in postage to mail it in. officials are suggesting to check in ahead of time to see what the wait time is because people have to read all those
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page pages and feed all the pages through. it's going to take awhile. expect long lines. and what has the republican government done for a year when the ballot is a monster? the longest one some election clerks can remember? florida republicans cut early voting in half. good luck getting through those ten pages and through the line to vote. bring some water. maybe a chair. joining us for the interview is rick hassen. he's the author of "the voting wars." he's one of the nation's most highl highly-cited experts on election law. in the election, florida confronted some voters with a difficult butterfly ballot where you konlt be sure which candidate you were picking. now we're hearing about a ballot that will be ten pages in some of the most populated parts of the state and they have cut early voting. is there any way around the idea
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that florida has made it difficult to vote this year? >> it's become more difficult to vote and register to vote. we have seen a decline thanks to rules just thrown out by a court in a settlement last week. but the cut back on early voting will have an impact on election day. we could have long lines. it could cause people to go home and not vote. it would be a real mess on election night in florida. >> republicans when they are arguing for changes like this never, or almost never say, they have partisan intentions. they describe these things as being good government changes they are trying to keep fraud out of the system. why is it that there is largely a partisan effect to r narrowing the elect rat by making it harder to vote and harder to register to vote? >> since 2000 we have seen the voting wars between democrats and republicans with republicans
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complaining about what they say is a risk of voter fraud and democrats complaining about voter suppression. if you look at the measures that have been taken to prevent fraud, if that was really the concern, we wouldn't see this push for voter i.d. the only kind of fraud that voter i.d. laws prevent is impersonation fraud. i looked in my book to find a single election that was affected by voter fraud with impersonation and couldn't find one. yet we see absentee ballot fraud coming up every year and there hasn't been a single proposal. i don't think there should be. we have to way the costs and benefits. if you were serious about fraud, absentee voting would be at the top of the list. >> in iowa this year the secretary of state there says he has an emergency. he has to purge the rules right now and make it easier to report voter fraud, right now. he wants to make the changes
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under the kinds of rules that would allow him to do it without the public comment under a nonemergency situation. has iowa's secretary of state got an emergency that the world does not know about? is there a particular risk in making these sorts of changes very close to the day of voting? >> we have good evidence because the same move to purge voters is going on to in other states including florida. florida created a list. colorado also created a list. and almost everyone on that list is an eligible voter is a citizen. florida officials first proclaiming a hundred voters on the list. now we're hearing it's maybe several. these are noncitizens who shouldn't be on the list. we do need to deal with a problem of noncitizen voting, but right before the the election, you run the risk of throwing out many eligible voters. if they have to cast a provisional ballot, we are going to have a lot of legitimate
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voters who won't get a chance to vote. >> rick hasen, author of "the voting wars." thank you very much for helping us understand this. there's a few other states that i have more and deeper questions about that i know you have done work on, particularly pennsylvania. could you come back short ly to talk about this? >> sure. any time. shining a light on dark money groups that pour millions into one candidate or another has become sort of a full-time job. the good news is that full-time job is actually filled. people are doing that work. that story is next. in america today we're running out of a vital resource we need
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. this is josh mendel. he's a republican democratic candidate in ohio. he's not the most seasoned in the world. >> i have a vision for taking the date and taking some of these auto plants and factories that used to be filled and filling them back up with dayton area workers. >> josh, i appreciate what you're saying but would would you have supported the gm bail out.
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>> i will do everything i can to protect auto jobs and we've talked quite a bit about. >> you're not going to answer it, are you? >> great seeing you. >> would you have supported the auto bail out? great seeing you. so josh is going to need some help unseating an incoup. it's 5-1 in ohio. when one of those outside groups started running ads for mr. mandel back in may, we knew the group was called the government integrity fund. that's all we know. but now, aha. we have some new information. we now know this fund is run out of a republican lobbying firm that employs one of josh mandel's former staffers. we know this because of a rule
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change at the fcc. it used to be if you wanted to know who was spending how much on what ads at your local tv station you would have to in the car and get on the bus or ride your bike all the way physically to the tv station. you would have to ask them to hand over to you the papers from the thing they maintain that's called the public file. you would have to do that for all the local stations in your area in order to understand who was steng what in your media market in this election. so while this information is technically available, it was so cumbersome to get that mvgs, it as well not have been available at all. it was not available in a way it could be utilized to figure out who was funding the elections. now the fcc has chaked that rule. the local stations public their public file online. the nbc affiliate in cincinnati
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for example did just that. last week they posted online this political advertising form filled out by the government integrity fund. remember them? and that's how we learned about the republican lobbying firm that the government integrity fund is connected to. if you want to check out who is spending what on political ads in your area go to stations.fcc.gov. you click on the icon with the star in it. the public file and then you can check out who is running ads in federal races and state races and local races as well as those supposedly noncandidate issue ads in your town t that's where you will see the spending from the outside groups rather from the candidates themselves. we never had a way to get the information before but now we can get it. we now know who is associated with this group that is returning these ads but we still don't know who's bank rolling
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take a look at question 15 from the latest ppp poll of ohio voters. who do you think deserves more credit for the killing of osama bin laden. barack obama or mitt romney. why would mitt romney get any credit for killing osama bin laden? look at the answer. the proportion of republican respondents who say mitt romney should get more credit is 15%. mitt romney who held no office at the time had no access to the white house or pentagon and was not a declared candidate for the presidency at the time gets the lion's share of the credit for killing bin laden. and look at the republicans who
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say they don't know. 47%. so combined the proportion of republicans in ohio who are either not sure who gets more credit or who are sure that mitt romney definitely gets the credit for killing osama bin laden is a combined 62%. for the record, here is president in the situation room while the raid he ordered is under way actually killing bin laden. 62% of ohio say mitt romney did that. ppp asked the same question in north carolina. the undecided number was 56% of north carolina republicans don't know who should get more credit. you ask them who killed bin laden and they'll say they don't know. that is 71% of north carolina republicans. so north carolina and ohio both swing states, two out ofhr